tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post216035302370046467..comments2023-12-03T06:40:50.836-08:00Comments on Capricious Bubbles: RegretsShinyunghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03223210004939369907noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-79179309739125897462009-02-23T08:59:38.477-08:002009-02-23T08:59:38.477-08:00Good for you for having the cojones to send that e...Good for you for having the cojones to send that email. I hope you don't regret it as what you did was courageous and honest--and those partners know it. Cowards! I'm a former lawyer turned writer too. You will be so much happier writing. All the best to you and your growing family.Gimme Stylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04763605645551502858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-78567955343714156812009-02-23T10:40:01.684-08:002009-02-23T10:40:01.684-08:00I've worked in law firms for the last 7 years,...I've worked in law firms for the last 7 years, and have absolutely no trouble believeing that what happened to you did happen - and happens all the time. Lawyers are lousy managers. In my first firm, which I left due to utter misery, I heard constantly, and then heard again vehemently at my review, "you are different." At the review it was "you are different and this firm Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-82431116432575845982009-02-23T10:43:26.762-08:002009-02-23T10:43:26.762-08:00Just as you say, Shinyung, it's doubtful that ...Just as you say, Shinyung, it's doubtful that firms, or partners at firms, will change the way they handle such situations. But even if their actions don't change, perhaps your highly-circulated email will cause the interpretation of their actions to shift from being credible to just another PR maneuver. This particular PR maneuver wherein the laid off/dismissed associate's JackBNimblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-62652505324192443582009-02-23T10:43:26.761-08:002009-02-23T10:43:26.761-08:00One thing that occurred to me when I read your far...One thing that occurred to me when I read your farewell email last year, and again when I reread it just now - how long do you think PH should have waited after your miscarriage to lay you off? I ask this with absolute sincerity - I'm really curious (and if that's too personal I completely understand). Assuming the rest of the process would have been the same (i.e. same reasons given, Bellanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-41542901198826058772009-02-23T11:11:42.797-08:002009-02-23T11:11:42.797-08:00I stumbled upon your now famous email and blog onl...I stumbled upon your now famous email and blog only within the past five minutes. It's not easy to deal with an intensely personal issue while confronting lawyers who treat "ethics" as a client who can't pay.<br><br>You have nothing to be ashamed of, as Helena said. Walk on with your head held high. The whole world is out there waiting for you.Simonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-49716937150385333522009-02-23T12:18:33.316-08:002009-02-23T12:18:33.316-08:00Law firms can be trusted. Truly. I am also an atto...Law firms can be trusted. Truly. I am also an attorney, and have performed above average in all the firms in which I have worked. At firm A, after positive feedback, I asked when I would be getting a raise (b/c the pay was sooo under market), and within days, I was told that I was "in trouble" because of my work. <br><br>In firm B, most recently, I had glowing reviews all along, and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-91231494522166105352009-02-23T13:01:40.562-08:002009-02-23T13:01:40.562-08:00there's no reason to regret it. you did a grea...there's no reason to regret it. you did a great job showing those assholes what you're made of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-18541166579744900172009-02-23T15:50:44.900-08:002009-02-23T15:50:44.900-08:00You are not the first Asian woman to be fired by P...You are not the first Asian woman to be fired by PHJW shortly after a miscarriage. I cannot reveal the identity of the other unfortunate soul, but I can point you in the right direction if it would help any legal action you may have.<br><br>brtessler @ gmail.comBenjamin R.http://www.blogger.com/profile/04428150675162403436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-36706726327158777742009-02-23T16:09:00.000-08:002009-02-23T16:09:00.000-08:00You were really brave to tell PH what you thought ...You were really brave to tell PH what you thought about their bogus actions and to turn away all that severance money. I've also miscarried, so I understand the emotional trauma you were going through, but still, I don't think I ever could have done what you did. So on behalf of all of us silent cowards, THANK YOU for standing up for yourself and finding your voice! I think you have a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-82133163600899638462009-02-23T19:13:07.068-08:002009-02-23T19:13:07.068-08:00You kick all ass! <3 <3 <3You kick all ass! <3 <3 <3Wallace Marcellisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-70976562798278623382009-02-24T04:46:09.852-08:002009-02-24T04:46:09.852-08:00Hi Shinyung, I'm a management consultant, but ...Hi Shinyung, I'm a management consultant, but I know the same issues exist in our industry. Ethics are often tied to billability. People often cave their ethics when under duress to make the numbers. What have I learned after 10 years in the industry? To search for emotionally functional requirements and to notice the "red" flags. I tried to work with the system and reform it alicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02717071998568015925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-8047892610418412282009-02-24T05:23:41.906-08:002009-02-24T05:23:41.906-08:00I'm watching you on the Today Show now! Great...I'm watching you on the Today Show now! Great job!SadinaBoikhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05751209756198938263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-44112209931203253082009-02-24T05:40:41.093-08:002009-02-24T05:40:41.093-08:00Congratulations to you for holding PH accountable ...Congratulations to you for holding PH accountable to the truth. I too am an attorney and am flabbergasted on a weekly basis by the lack of basic human decency by upper level management.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-43029938922326128902009-02-24T06:03:03.770-08:002009-02-24T06:03:03.770-08:00Hi Shinyung, I think you are very brave, both in y...Hi Shinyung, I think you are very brave, both in your personal life and professionally! Why should we have to censor what we are feeling and why can't we tell people how they hurt us or as in your employers case--clotheslined you!! I am all for telling it like it is and not flowering my speech to make it sound better than it is--your employers lied to you and then pulled the rug out!! On Denisenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-40932607101243268492009-02-24T06:32:17.430-08:002009-02-24T06:32:17.430-08:00I just saw you on The Today Show and you were awes...I just saw you on The Today Show and you were awesome. The ethics are terrible everywhere and have been for quite some time. When I had my first child, the internet company I worked for was trying to fire me upon return from maternity leave. While I didn't write an email at the time, I did blog about it 10 years later and my post was read by thousands. Companies should think long and The Stiletto Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10206822797293852486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-74126623427454091682009-02-24T06:36:02.120-08:002009-02-24T06:36:02.120-08:00Shinyung,You are right on. I just saw you on the T...Shinyung,<br>You are right on. I just saw you on the Today Show and googled your name to find your blog. You are the far more credible "witness" in this case. Best wishes in your future pursuits!Kimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08558000908154681294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-29093337774388297772009-02-24T07:31:11.950-08:002009-02-24T07:31:11.950-08:00Just saw you on Today. I regret I caught the segme...Just saw you on Today. I regret I caught the segment late but it was still very cool to see you! Hope things are going well.wakeuplaughingbloghttp://wakeuplaughingblog.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-34929824560574870642009-02-24T08:37:00.000-08:002009-02-24T08:37:00.000-08:00Nice to see that you were brave enough to stick up...Nice to see that you were brave enough to stick up for yourself even while the economy and employment situation is so bad for so many.<br><br>Most women are afraid to do this most of the time because we are frequently expected to be so nice and grateful. <br><br>Good Luck to you.Botany's Desirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16093796160938189631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-12256813318567787682009-02-24T08:41:42.953-08:002009-02-24T08:41:42.953-08:00Go girl!! Why should we stay quiet as American bus...Go girl!! Why should we stay quiet as American businesses fail to "convey some level of humanity to carry out even the most difficult business decisions" (to quote your email)? Maybe it's naive to ask that people be nice, especially in tough economic times, but it's also courageous. <br><br>"Opportunities to find deeper powers within ourselves come when life seems most Priscilla Oppenheimerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16200272691941910102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-21275788408676273802009-02-24T09:09:15.733-08:002009-02-24T09:09:15.733-08:00Shinyung, I saw you this morning and felt such rel...Shinyung, I saw you this morning and felt such relief- I am an interior architect who tried to address a hostile work situation with my boss. I loved my work and clients but the toll his illegal actions were taking on me personally were unbearable. Within a month of my discussion with him I was fired under bogus charges. After the dust subsided I consulted 2 lawyers and was told I could have Betsynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-89068850839287970312009-02-24T13:01:28.065-08:002009-02-24T13:01:28.065-08:00I saw you on the TODAY show this morning and I had...I saw you on the TODAY show this morning and I had to find you on-line to read the entire e-mail. <br><br>I am a paralegal in the greater Los Angeles area and countless times I have seen this sort of behavior. We all know the economy is horrible right now but as you said, I think had the partners just been honest with you and let you know why they were laying you off instead of pointing the blameSarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-37144199712575969752009-02-24T13:18:38.681-08:002009-02-24T13:18:38.681-08:00I too saw you on the Today Show this morning and I...I too saw you on the Today Show this morning and I too want to say, "Good for you and for the stance you felt was the right one to take". <br><br>In the end, it's not about money, nor burning bridges, but about the human worth and the value we place on one another and how we treat others regardless of corporate thinking. <br><br>Thanks for taking a stand for something rather then Jebenahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05211609819656229230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-74012238476748971682009-02-24T13:21:18.962-08:002009-02-24T13:21:18.962-08:00If you weren't getting work it was because you...If you weren't getting work it was because you weren't very good. Although the partner was an ass for not being up front with you earlier, it doesn't mean your performance review was falsified. The reward for good work is more work. When times are good, there is more room for mediocre lawyers, but when times are lean, only the best associates continue to get work. <br><br>Shinyung, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-91303257122374526382009-02-24T13:28:02.857-08:002009-02-24T13:28:02.857-08:00Shinyung- I saw you on the Today show this morning...Shinyung- I saw you on the Today show this morning and you were terrific. I hope the writing gig goes great. Good luck and thanks for sounding off!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6306924738545479337.post-60742311944904078432009-02-24T14:33:08.199-08:002009-02-24T14:33:08.199-08:00Your posting gave me a flashback...my first year o...Your posting gave me a flashback...my first year out of business school 10 years ago, I was working at a huge firm. One of my friends got pregnant after suffering from infertility. She went in to tell the managing partner and his response was, "If you were going to have kids, why the H_LL did you go get an MBA!" He also proceeded to tell her that he had been counting on her to alicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02717071998568015925noreply@blogger.com